Linda, Kuwait - Saudi - Jordan

 32-year-old Linda migrated to Kuwait, Saudi and Jordan, spending over six years abroad.  She speaks extensively about her experiences with different employers, including abuse, sexual harassment, restrictions on food, and non-payment of wages.

Transcript

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Real life with Missi 00:00

Hello my lovely listeners. Today's another exciting episode on the real life with Missi podcast. With a grateful heart, I would want to thank my sponsors, migrant rights.org for making this possible. This program has brought to light some of the unimaginable things our African sisters go through no face in the Gulf countries, their life at home, their migration experience, we hope for a change that our African sisters will be treated right. Humanity must prevail. Today I have one wonderful lady who has been to Kuwait, Saudi and Jordan, and she is here with us to share her migration experience. I'm so keen. Hello, Madame. Can you please kindly tell us your name? And where you're from in Ghana and the countries you've been to?

Linda 00:58

My name is Linda, am from Volta region. I'm 32 years of age. I traveled to Kuwait, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia. So before then, my life in Ghana was not so well. Things were very difficult for me. But as time went on, I used to work with a bar and then some restaurant at ANC mall. What was your position there? In the bar I was a cashier and restaurant to I was a cook. a cook’ Yeah.

Real life with Missi 01:34

Interesting. So please proceed.

Linda 01:37

Okay, and I traveled to Kuwait, and then Saudi Arabia and then back to Jordan. Yeah.

Real life with Missi 01:48

How was the process?

Linda 01:50

Okay. for me, I had a friend who introduced me to an agent. Okay. And then she helped me get my passport. And then the visa and the tickets. How long did this process take? Oh, let's say two months? Yes. Yours took months? Yes. After the two months, the visa came I don't have any money on me. And then I was working. I asked my boss that I needed money to do something quickly. So they should give me part of my salary. So they give me the money. And then I'm supposed to go with a lady. She's also working, she have to stop the work and take some rest. So I took the money and then we went to market. Buy some things that we need. Yeah. So after that, we took some three days. rest, then the time have come for us to

Real life with Missi 02:50

so you mean, you travel. You traveled with another lady? Yes. And it was this? The same agent that did the process for both of you? Yes, yes. Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Linda 02:59

OKAY. So when we got to Egypt, everybody departed. So it left with I and the lady. So we waited there for about two hours for the next flight to Kuwait. So when we got to Kuwait, they have to take our passport, because we were first time travelers. So they kept us in some room. And then we waited there for about two hours. Then after that, they took us to another room again. So we have to wait for the for the agent to come in and Pick us.

Real life with Missi 03:38

Um, so during this period, why were they keeping you guys in the room?

Linda 03:43

Maybe they were thinking maybe we are the first,we are first time travelers that's why they are keeping us there.

Real life with Missi 03:51

Okay, so please proceed with your story. What happened next? Okay. So

Linda 03:55

we waited for the agent who who is in Kuwait. Then she came for us, I and the lady. Okay, so we went to the office? And then we met a two other nationalities they were Ethiopian and a Filipino. okay. So we stayed there for about one hour later. Then we went back to her house. Okay, so the next day to we came then, and some woman came for my friend. Okay, so I was there alone. At he office? Yeah,, Okay. There were no other African women?yes at that moment they came to pick everybody so I was there alone with the agents. So I was there in the evening. A lady came for me. We went to her house, and they were very good to me. They treated me well. They bought things for me, panties and all those things, things that a lady can have access to it. So they got me all those things. So the next day they have to take me through the how they work in their house arrang things . Cookings, take care of kids. So on Monday, Monday, they're supposed to go to work. Yeah. So they have to leave the kids with me. And then the woman to give me another double work that I have to fold things, I have to arrange this, me alone.

Real life with Missi 05:25

Are you were doing this whiles taking care of the children,how many where they? 

Linda 05:29

They were two , two kids and the woman to I think she was pregnant with with another kid. So the, the next day again, is it Tuesday? I know the man went to work that everybody went to work so they left the kid with me that time the woman took away so, that moment I don't have anything to wash. So I'm supposed to take care of the kids. So in the afternoon in Kuwait, so 12 o'clock they have to close from Work, come back and resume work. at three o'clock. Oh really, yeah, the man came. And I was sitting there. He was like, Oh, are you tired? I was like, No, I'm not tired. I'm okay. When the man I heard that they when they see ladies around the like this kind of sexual harassment ? Yeah, something like that. So when I see the man coming I have to pack the kids to the kitchen,so we to have to stay there. I have to play with them. The man will come, everywhere I go the man will come, Are you tired so that, I will massage you. No, no, no, I'm not ready for this. I didn't come here to do this. So another day again.They’ve gone to work and the man came back to the house again. That time the woman was not around. She also went work but she didn't come. So in the evening. I don't know what the man told because I can’t speak Arabic at that moment. So I don’t know what the man told the wife. So I got to realize that she was asking me that. Why are you not taking care of the kids? You're not doing the work? We are just sitting there sleeping and all those things ,and I said, I'm not sleeping anything that I say and she will say Shut up. Don't talk. Don't talk. So I kept quiet and she gave it to me very well. You mean you were physically abused, beat me with some metal stick metal. I receive it well,well.

Real life with Missi 07:23

just because the husband lied, I'm sure he that because he tried his sexual advances on you and you refused, Yes.

Linda 07:33

So the next day, the woman didn't go to work she, in the morning too she try to beat me and I was like, okay, me if this will go on in the house. Then I have to go back to the office. Okay. And then this woman went and locked me in the bathroom for like, one hour or something, yeah one hour and she came to open and she was asking me, Are you okay? I brought you here, I bought things for you so that you can take care of my kids. You're not doing the work. You are here and then doing anything that she was like every everyday I didn’t know,I didn't know. I didn't know, Madam, please. All I'm asking is that I want to go back to the office. And God being so good. They took me back to the office. Okay. And so at the office that evening, another woman too came an old woman. she came and then she took me to her house, for God being so good. But wait’ 

Real life with Missi 08:33

when these people come and pick you up from the office did you take you like that or they pay some money or something

Linda 08:38

They pay but I don't know Yeah, I don't have any idea on that, me all I know is that they are dashing the lady, the agents some money, haha you thought they were dashing them, Yeah! so and the woman took me to her house. They are very good.

Real life with Missi 08:58

Ow! the old lady's house was very good, the first house they are very good, so that means they are, we have some good Arabs people out there.

Linda 09:05

We have good and bad people okay, as Africa we have good and bad people who are among us? Okay, so you just you just made sense? Yes, it’s true. So the woman took me they bought me a SIM card have I used to call home and all those things. So during that time, one morning the they have an old man and an old man. So we have to lift this man up so that they can dress him. So we went I went to the room. So we lift the man. And the woman was like you are very hard working but we are not you don't have strength or you don't have body to do this work. So because they see you to be smallish. So they have to take me to the office, just because of that. Yeah, I cried , you left that good family because, they you know, they used to you travel to USA and the kids too they are in the army. They have good jobs so they speak. they used to travel so they speak good English, that means their communication was good yes and the kids too. there was no language barrier great great great they are not, they are very good oh yeah very good so they took you back to this office. Despite my color or something I do. Oh, everybody that come to visit us, This girl she’s from Africa. She's very good. She's she works very hard. But I'm looking at her she's very slim. She cannot do it, If she works here with us, she might get tired or get sick. So we have to return her. Oh, I have to cry a beg her, I know I have to stay in the house and work with them. I don't have any option then to go back to the office so when I went they got me some money, I didn't know how much it is, so they just dash me and some gift, I took it and I thanked them. So another day, like three days later, and some Ghanaians too started coming, then I'm used to Kuwait okay, we used to Kuwait, So they started coming. When did you come here? And I was like, oh, like three weeks, I am almost one month Yeah. So I started giving them tips. The people are like this they are like this. Okay, so those new arrivals arrived Yeah. Okay. And you were lecturing about whatever you experienced there. When we go back to the house, okay but in the office, we are not allowed to talk like that. Because you know that we have language that we speak Yes, so they don’t understand, so don’t allow us to speak. So when we get home, we interact. So in the evening I was there we came back that time they came to take all the new Ghanaians that came, they came to take everybody and I was like Eii. So does that mean, am going back to Ghana. No I'm going back to Ghana. No, I'm not going back. This beautiful country. I'm not going,You didn't want to come back. I don't want to come back. Despite the hotness there, I don't want to come

Real life with Missi 12:11

So how many families did you change? in Kuwait? Yes. Four houses. You changed four houses, that is four homes Yeah. And how long did you stay in Kuwait? Let’s say one month. So within one month, you change like, four house. And after the four houses you change within the one month where else did you go? Okay, now,

Linda 12:32

Did you come back to Ghana? No that old woman that came in the morning? Yeah. And she came back in the evening. That means she has paid already okay. So anybody that come to the office to pick me, she should will be like, Oh, this lady somebody have pick her

Real life with Missi 12:47

so that means, she already paid? Yes. Oh, then literally they were buying you guys.

Linda 12:51

Yeah. That's where I begin to realize that they are selling us. And that Filippino lady too told me that you people,they are buying you. I said me! buy me. You didn't believe, I didn't believe. Well, I don't have any option. Okay, so far as me here. I'm not going back to Ghana again.

Real life with Missi 13:10

But I don't understand you knowing they were buying you and how the previous family treated you, the lady. But why did you still want to be in that country? Why didn't you want to go back to Ghana? Oh, because I don't

Linda 13:24

have any help, back in Ghana. Yeah And when I come back to have to go back to my old life. Start all over again. I don't know how it will end, So I have to close my eyes, close my ears and then continue and we have to be trying. So the woman came for me in the evening. So when we went, when we get to the house, there are a lot of, is a big family house big very big. So in a evening , I was there. And when I put my bag, they have a room like this for house helps. So when they work and they are having their resting time they come there and then they chat with each other. In the house. They were Bangladesh, Indiana and Sri Lanka. I have forgotten, there were the Filipinos ,So when we go to the house, one lady came. We have Africa in the house. We have one Africa in the house. Her name is Jennifer. Jennifer. Oh, wow. Maybe the lady that I went with maybe she's the one. So the next day in the in the afternoon. She went and call the lady and she came and I was like whoa, Jennifer. Okay, I'm okay. I'm not going back. I have a family here, I have a sister here, so this Jenifer who was she ? She was err come again? Jennifer who was she? She's a friend. Do you know her in person’ Yeah. You met her, during the process, She was the one who came with during the process in Ghana. She was the one you traveled with. Okay, so we met and I was so happy that you finally meet your sister again. I'm not going back , they where Like, you go to my madam’s sister. She's, she's also around here. Now I was like, wow, then we have to maybe we will be meeting every Friday, or something like that. So I was there one Friday, and a lady came, the Indian girl came to tell me that, you have to pack your things they are taking you to Saudi Arabian, Saudi Arabia. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not going. I will stay here in Jennifer's house, I've got a family here. So I'm not going. So I was like, oh, the woman who took me from the office was like, Oh, you are going to a good family. They are my sisters, They're my family. So you have to go, you will have a connection with your sister, so don't worry. So I was like, Okay. I'm going 

Real life with Missi 13:57

So you follow the family to Saudi Arabia. So that's how come you move to Saudi Arabia. And how many years did you spend in Saudi Arabia?

Linda 16:17

Two years with the same family? Yes. Oh, so they have a sister. They have a sister, the woman who took them from the office took me to her sister in Saudi Arabia. Mmm So you were working for the sister you know, from Saudi to Kuwait to Saudi Arabia is not far let’s say about 8 hours driving, So they drove me to Saudi Arabia. Wow.

Real life with Missi 16:39

And how was life in Saudi Arabia? How were you treated during these two years? Like I said, everywhere that I go, yeah, they give me food. So you were never starved? No, no, I used to cook you can even your own meal 

Linda 16:54

Teach me one week they used to teach me and even if they are cooking too I stand there== 

Real life with Missi 16:59

And observe what you're doing. Oh, you really had== 

Linda 17:02

My third house, too, the woman was very good. That was in Kuwait. Yes. But they don't allow me to use phone, that is the problem. Me, I can’t use phone here so I have to go, okay. So the woman was very good. She, she taught me how to cook their food. That is where I learnt how to cook their food. Yeah. So in Saudi I used to cook. Even when we went there, they were all girls? That night, when we landed in Saudi Arabia, we were, they were all girls, and I was like, wow, okay, maybe they are, they are all girls. So I was like, okay, they are okay.

Real life with Missi 17:41

So there were no men in the house. There were men, but

Linda 17:44

I didn’t see them. They went to work Okay. Okay. I was like, okay, they are girls, maybe when they wear their something and is not good for them. They will give it to me. Give me bags, They'll give me things. I was so happy and they came to me. Okay. We are your sisters. We are your sister when you need something come and tell us we take you to market wherever you want to go. We take to supermarket if you want to buy something. If you don't like our food, we will order you food from outside, I was like okay. I feel at home. So the next day, they call on Indian she also worked for my madam’s sister. Very close to us. Okay, So they called her and she came. She had a chat with me she speak English. So yeah. So we have a chat. And then she was like, Oh, the house is good. They will give you food, as for this house. They are very good. They will give you food. God being so good to they were in Ramadan. So the woman taught me even that house I said to me I am not good. I don't want to stay in the house. Because they, okay! Because I don't have phone, I have to use some landline to go home every week. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So the buy me ,anytime that they see me sitting down quietly, they have to get me credit. So, during the Ramadan, I was sitting down. My madam’s daughter, she has an Ethiopian house help, who used to work with them for six years, for six years? So, yes, yes. My name is Udith. okay. And she was like oh, you have a sister. Yeah. She's also like you so don't worry. Just feel at home. And during the Ramadan, they came they came to me when I was working somewhere. They have a room called Donia where men used to sit during to me a during the Ramadan when they are having a men (male) visitors. Okay. So they asked me to go and clean,  so I was there. So when one of the girl came to come there, your sister is here so come, So I went she hugged me, she pegged me and I was Wow. You're very beautiful. Look at, that time too I braided my hair. Oh Africa hair. I'm a hairdresser. So don't worry, I will be braiding your hair for you and I was Okay, thank you. So that time too, after the Ramadan their last day of the Ramadan. The woman who took me from Kuwait to Saudi Yeah, she came to Saudi and then I met a friend too in Kuwait Okay. And that same woman went and pick her to another family in Saudi Arabia, so during the family gathering, she came to the house, she was like you have a sister here you know, I have a gap teeth, the lady too have a gap teeth. She said oh! You people have a gap teeth, so come and see your sister. So we went there we, I, saw and I was like wow Dorin, you are here and then we laugh and I was like okay, we are family here, we didn't have any option to then to close our eyes and then do the work. Okay, so Saudi Arabia too very —

Real life with Missi 20:41

So you had a lovely experience? Yes and during all this period where you paid?

Linda 21:08

Okay, Saudi Arabia paying is very hard. You were not paid? Yes. They don't pay me I have to report to the office and then report them to the agent in Ghana to speak Arabic with them and during that and I don't have a whatsapp phone. Okay, and I have this Nokia phone but very small, I used to chat the woman that, am working but they are not paying me. Okay, they're not paying me so they have to speak to the woman to pay me, so like three four months I did received mmy pay, I have to cry, cry reports after reports before I get my pay. So during that time, too. I'm very smart. I have a notepad so I used to jot everything in it. As for Saudi they and

Real life with Missi 22:00

so at Saudi you never had any physical abuse. No sexual abuse or sexual harassment. You okay,

Linda 22:11

sexual harassment? I may say Yeah, okay. The man. My madam’s husband, okay, if the woman is not around, he also the disturbs you, very disturbing. Wow. Very disturbing. Did you, the woman doesn't allow me to stay in the house. I used to the woman know that he has been doing that. So she always protects me. Oh then you really got a nice family. Whenever she goes out , she will say’ if I'm going out if Baba do something when I come tell me. So I have to report it. When I tell her, she will say Oh, I will not ask him. But I will take my time, hide and see what he does. So one day, I'm in the kitchen and then the woman and I was cooking, let’s say this is our kitchen. And then there's a corridor in front of our kitchen. This this man will come a lie down the when I'm cooking or passing by he he’ll be raising his hand. And then calling me and do me some sign. Then the woman will come today of caught you, you have been doing this thing, everyday I have been seeing you but today i have to ask you, what what is wrong with you? As the woman , she used to protect me. Wow.

Real life with Missi 23:27

I'm excited today because this is the first time I have heard of a story whereby some of my sisters traveled to this Arab countries and they are being protected. So big ups to that woman she really did great! That woman she’s free, I'm very excited. Like I'm so happy. This’ll help story is really unique. Um, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back! 

Break! 24:01

Linda 24:02

i Sorry. After I came from Saudi Arabia.

Real life with Missi 24:02

So Linda, let's quickly come back to Jordan. How were you able to get to Jordan? You mean, you said you stayed in Saudi for two years. And after the two years you came back to Ghana? Yeah. Okay.

Linda 24:25

So when I came, I had this friend, the friend I met at Saudi okay. Yeah. She also went back to, she was having some problem in her house, so she went back to Kuwait, she went and worked and then they deported her back to Ghana, to so she got an agent and when I came back to Ghana, she gave me the number, the agent number and you contacted them 

Real life with Missi 24:53

Yes, but what I want to know is that why is it that when you came back to Ghana, you didn't settle with the money that you've made you could have settled in Ghana, why what pushed you to go back again?

Linda 25:04

During that time, the money was not enough and some part of my family to spend some of your money so I have to go back. Okay. Okay. So I call the guy the agent and went through the process, the process okay, first I was trying to go to Dubai, but he couldn't succeed. Okay, so he let me go back to Jordan. Okay, so Jordan too, they were very good family. Wow, God being so good. My boss too, he knows Ghana. He traveled to Ghana before Wow, a lot of Ghanians Wow. So that is the grace that saved me. He’s very good. They are very welcoming. Wow. Very Jovial, so in Jordan. The very day that I landed they took me out. That was Thursday. Something like that. Yeah, Thursday, Thursday, so on Friday, you know, every Friday is their holiday. So they have kids in the house. They used to go out on Fridays, so that Friday, you went out when I was like wow, I got a good family. I got a good family so they took me out so that time every Friday we used to go out there very good. Wow, very good.

Real life with Missi 26:26

I'm really happy but what happened 

Linda 26:28

But that house getting food to eat was a problem, But I don't I don't care, since I have my freedom there am okay.As for that house, they give me freedom. I can go out on my own. Go to the mall, the woman can drop in the mall spend more than five hours there, go into outlet getting my dress anything that I saw online and I want to buy they allow me to go, they gave me freedom by getting food to eat was a problem, the food too they will give you but not much. Very small before you finish eating. You're hungry again. Oh, so now as I use to, and you were not loaded with work. Loaded with work to Yes. Yeah. But with all that you were okay. Okay. Because of the freedom that I have to I forget whether I work more or not. I know that as for Friday, I'm going out. Okay. This is interesting The, the man too, my boss he used to give me some tips anytime that they have visitors in the house and I work over, he will give me like 10JD that, oh Friday when we're going out go and use it to buy somethings, somethings

Real life with Missi 27:47

How much were you paid? In Jordan,in Jordan yeah ? $250 and what of Saudi? the same thing. Oh, it was the same figure. Okay, okay. Okay. And then with the Kuwait

Linda 28:01

Kuwait I didn't get any money because I have been jumping from house to house. I guess that I didn't work for anything.

Real life with Missi 28:08

I'm really happy with your story because like today, the first time I'm hearing a positive story, you know, all the stories we’ve been hearing are quite ugly. And it's really disturbing because most of our sisters come back and they are mentally not okay due to the trauma that they put them through. But listening to your story. It has made me believe that we have good people out there. Yes, yes. Yes. I'm really excited about. So tell me how did you come back to Ghana? Okay.

Linda 28:39

Okay, I finished my contract that was 2019 Okay, yeah 2019 Okay, so that time to my passport expired Okay, which I forget I heard that now the passport is 10 years so I thought is the, they are continue with the old one, I didn't know the new one, get a new one befor. so I close my eyes and I was like hm me, if i go to Ghana Accra me, what am I going to do? so wanted to even stay there for long, so I stay there,as for the hunger I went through it. I have to hide my food in a pillow Wow. I have to hide food food that is food that that they know that, is good for them like burger, those kind of petty but frozen food. If when they do it the is hardly to get some but rice, that kind of their hard bread. Those kinds of things. So

Real life with Missi 29:38

But Wait! , sorry I'm interrupting you. I want to understand something where there, was there no food in the house at all?

Linda 29:46

There's food but it, when they cook it when they serve you. The food is very small, they can give you like 2 ladle Okay, the food is there plenty but they will not give you Okay, you see they will not give you, Something like yeah, I get it.

Real life with Missi 30:01

But you could have told them that maybe the food they gave me was not enough.

Linda 30:04

When I went there first , you know every house in the beginning, they will treat you well Okay. Yeah, they will treat, As for a Jordan they don't allow me to cook. Okay. Okay. So they do the cooking? they do the cooking Okay. Okay, I get it, I get it. So one day they where, they have this candy and they have pizza, so every morning, every Friday or Saturday, they buy plenty box, box like six. Okay in different types. So when we finish eating I have to pack the rest into the oven. Maybe when you're hungry, you can come and eat it and do some tea, that place, they used to tea, lipton some with coffee, or something like that. So when they pack the food in the in the oven, let's say around two three hours time and I take like two slides or three slides. One of the boy told me that, you are,you like eating too much. So I got angry, i was like am not going to eat again until the give, any amount that they give you to eat. Okay, I'm okay with it. Okay, so that was where the whole thing started Yeah, I don't want to eat I don't what to go and ask them for more or some No, no.

Real life with Missi 30:30

Okay. Okay, so, back to your passport.

Linda 31:18

So my passport got expired. Okay, okay, I have to work, because I want money. I continue working okay, working so

Real life with Missi 31:27

if your passport has expired, and you continue working, that makes it, it is like you are in that country is it illegal or whatever what the word is, Yeah, illegal because you're not supposed to be there your passport as expired , They know Okay, even the people too 

Linda 31:42

They don't want me to go, oh okay ! So I have to stay. Yeah, they don't want me to go, so I have stay back and they were like, stay, we are good. We don't beat you, we don't do this but you have to stay. Okay. I will stay, so you also stay so I'm supposed to so I want to come. I wanted to come back to Ghana 2020 Okay, then. Unfortunately, then Coronavirus also came in, so I have to stay for another one whole year. Yeah, so during 2020 December, I told my boss that I want to go back to Ghana. My passport. I let them know that my passport has expired because it’s with, I have every document with them. So I told them already and they were like okay, no problem you can stay we will help you. Okay. So they give me hope. Okay, that they will help me though my passport expired. So during that process 2020 December. My boss unfortunately, my boss will lost his work( job) let’s say June, June 2019. Okay, he has to relocate back to USA, to go and settle there Okay, so he left with me and the wife and the kids. So 2020 December I told my boss that I have to come back and he agreed and he agree. So they have to start asking, How to get me out of the country?" They have to take me to,how do you call it, Foreign Affairs? Something like that, they took me there and during that time they were not working. It's December. So they are not working. So we have to come back home and wait for January, So to start everything okay during that time too. I asked my agency that they have to get me information from Ghana so that when I'm coming back immigration information so that when I'm coming they will allow me to come so they did it is not clicking okay. So they send them the money, they said that’s the thing, so that time to my boss sister went to a place the Foreign Affairs Office. So she meet a Ghanaian, you know every black that they see they think is a Ghanian. So the woman asked the man that the guy that are you a Ghanaian? And the guy said yes. And she said they have a Ghanaian in our home. They have pa, she has a problem with the passport. So they have to do it for her. And the guy said, okay, but we don't have embassy here. I have been doing it for Ghanians who over work here and have problem with their passports, so he will take my documents so that he will send it to Saudi Arabia we have Embassy there,so there the guy take my information

Real life with Missi 34:56

How did family and friends receive you? 

Linda 34:58

For me, they receive me well. Some of them too Um. when I came, I really hide myself because when I came I slimmed down. So I don't want anybody to see me. So, I came, I stay with my sister. You know, when you travel, they think that you're having the money, something like that. So they have to give you pressure, say this and that, so I don’t know, some received me well, some too they think I have money so they have to dawg me somewhere Okay.

Real life with Missi 35:35

So what are you currently doing now?

Linda 35:39

Currently, first when I came, I used to sell lady slippers. Okay. But it's not going on well, okay. So I stopped, and I find another job. Okay. And that is, we used to do Cleaning for people. That's what I'm doing currently.

Real life with Missi 36:01

And what is your advice to our fellow women, you know, who wants to travel to Arab countries for greener pastures? Well per your experience, what would what would be your advice to them,

Linda 36:16

Well, all I will say is that if you really want to travel outside, or any Arab country, I will tell you that, we have good and bad people out there, just like African here. So if you want to go, just relax, go through the right process. Get a good agent, take you through everything. Relax, don't rush the person you may be rushing, then you will fall into the hands of bad people that you may know like, so you have to take your time. Pray very well so that you will go and meet good people. So that you may not go and be roaming, like how I roam in Kuwait here and there No, no, no, no, no. Take your time. Okay, go through the right process.

Real life with Missi 37:07

All right. Um, I guess I would have to end it here today. Thank you, Linda, for joining me today on The Real Life Missi podcast.

Linda 37:14

It’s a pleasure 

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The pleasure is mine. Wow. Wow. I'm so happy today. I now believe that there are some good people out there. After listening to our sister's story. I finally do have hope that the world will be a better place with such wonderful employers. God bless them wherever they are. This is what we call migration with a wonderful experience to share. I come to the end of today's episode of the Real life with Missi podcast, and I ended with a quote from Antonio Guterres. He says migration is a fact of life, a defining feature of humanity and above all, a positive phenomenon and enriching societies and economies. Whether they movement is voluntary or forced, formally authorized or not. All human beings must have their rights respected and dignity upheld. Thank you so much for joining me today. Until next time, it's bye bye.